2Principals Podcast
Are you tired of feeling stressed out and overwhelmed? Do you struggle to find balance between your work life and personal life? If so, you’re not alone. Many people, especially those in leadership positions, find it difficult to maintain their overall health and well-being. That’s where the 2Principals Podcast comes in. Hosted by Kevin and Jason, two experienced leaders in education who are dedicated to helping everyday leaders learn practical ways to live a more balanced and fulfilled life. With each episode, we tackle a wide variety of conversations related to leadership, mental & physical health, stress management and work-life balance. Regardless of where you are on your journey, the 2Principals Podcast has something to offer. Check us out at 2principals.com for additional information including our clothing store! Please email us at 2principalspodcast@gmail.com for all questions and or comments. We LOVE to hear from our listeners! Episodes drop every Wednesday. All statements made on the 2Principals Podcast represent the personal views and opinions of Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost. These statements are made solely by the individuals in their personal capacities and are not made on behalf of, nor are they affiliated with, their respective employers.
Episodes

4 days ago
4 days ago
In this episode of the 2P Pod, Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost converse with Trent Langemo, a high school principal with a wealth of experience in education and leadership. The discussion covers various aspects of the principalship, from the importance of health and wellness to strategies for building positive school culture. Trent shares his journey from being a social studies teacher to a principal, offering practical advice on balancing work and personal life, managing mental health, and fostering resilience. He also highlights the significance of daily self-care practices and the support of a strong community. The episode concludes with insights on maintaining sustainability in leadership and the benefits of consistent, genuine engagement with students and staff. This engaging and informative conversation provides valuable takeaways for educators and leaders striving to improve their professional and personal lives.
00:00 Introduction and Banter
00:58 Podcast Kickoff
02:54 Listener Appreciation
03:40 Meet the Hosts
06:55 Guest Introduction: Trent Langamo
12:39 March Madness and Leadership Lessons
18:22 Trent's Journey in Education
27:11 Health and Wellness for Principals
31:25 Morning Routine and Daily Steps
32:36 Managing Emotions as a Principal
36:20 Mental Health Awareness
47:09 Balancing Work and Personal Life
53:35 Leadership and Positive Culture
57:10 Burnout and Work-Life Wellness
01:02:51 Role Models and Mentors
01:09:53 Final Thoughts and Gratitude

Wednesday Feb 26, 2025
Wednesday Feb 26, 2025
In this episode of 2Principals Podcast, Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost engage in a vibrant conversation with special guest Nick Edwards, a dynamic principal from Dover, New Jersey. The episode explores various aspects of educational leadership, personal growth, and the critical balance between professional responsibilities and self-care. Topics discussed include the importance of building positive school culture, the challenges of standardized testing, the integration of personal mantras like 'Be Kind, Work Hard, Be Great' into everyday leadership, and the significance of mental health for educators. Nick Edwards shares his personal journey from a Division I athlete to an educator and principal, providing invaluable insights and practical advice for new and aspiring school leaders.
00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter
00:26 Weekly Check-In and Updates
01:16 Podcast Episode Kickoff
06:58 Introducing Nick Edwards
12:09 Nick's Journey and Leadership Insights
20:25 Challenges and Culture in Education
32:09 Fueling Motivation Through Adversity
32:43 Family Values and Daily Rituals
33:34 Balancing School and Home Life
35:23 The Power of Reflection
40:08 Keys to Success for New Principals
46:42 Mental Health and Self-Care
56:32 Connecting with Students
01:05:52 Final Thoughts and Advice
Learn more about Nick by visiting him on X, Instagram or his WEBSITE.

Wednesday Feb 19, 2025
Wednesday Feb 19, 2025
In this episode of the 2Principals Podcast, hosts Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost engage in a dynamic conversation with Dr. Joy Karavedas, an experienced educator, researcher, and author. Dr. Karavedas shares insights from her book 'From Striving to Thriving' and discusses her journey through various educational roles. The discussion covers key topics like maintaining authenticity in leadership, the importance of mental health, balancing personal growth with professional responsibilities, and developing middle management leaders. Dr. Karavedas also offers practical tips for leaders to cultivate executive presence and empower their teams. Tune in for a wealth of wisdom and actionable strategies for becoming the best version of yourself.
00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter
00:29 Podcast Kickoff and Episode Introduction
01:31 Introducing the Hosts and Podcast Purpose
03:06 Discussing the 2P Frequency Framework
06:36 Website and Merchandise Updates
07:46 Introducing the Guest
13:11 Dr. Joy Karavidas' Background and Journey
16:29 Insights from Dr. Joy Karavidas' Book
21:43 Social Media and Personal Growth
27:50 Balancing Personal Growth and Professional Responsibilities
31:34 Reflecting on Personal Well-being
32:09 Challenges in Leadership
33:01 The Importance of Authenticity
35:15 Balancing Time and Responsibilities
41:08 Maintaining Mental Health
47:15 Professional Development Strategies
54:29 Empowering Middle Management
01:00:04 Cultivating Executive Presence
01:04:42 Final Thoughts and Advice
Learn more about Dr. Karavedas by visiting her website.

Wednesday Feb 12, 2025
Wednesday Feb 12, 2025
In this episode of the 2Principals Podcast, hosts Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost delve into fostering innovation in schools with Bob Driver, Executive Director of MASSP. They explore the significance of creating a culture of experimentation, overcoming the fear of failure, and the broader impact of school innovations. Mental health tips for principals and reminders on professional development also form key parts of the conversation. Special recognitions are given to Minnesota's Principals of the Year. Throughout, the importance of elevating leadership, energy, and ultimately the quality of education is emphasized.
00:00 Welcome and Introduction to 2P Merch
01:00 Casual Conversation and Banter
02:46 Podcast Episode Kickoff
04:20 Listener Engagement and Gratitude
05:01 Special Guest Introduction: Bob Driver
13:11 Discussion on Innovation in Education
25:45 Embracing Innovation in Education
26:22 Encouraging Teacher Expertise and Growth
27:35 Balancing Accountability and Innovation
30:47 Building a Supportive School Culture
32:24 Hope Building vs. Hope Crushing Systems
34:45 Broader Impact of School Innovations
44:47 Mental Health and Self-Care for Principals
48:44 Professional Development Opportunities
53:43 Recognizing Outstanding Principals
57:01 Final Thoughts and Key Advice

Wednesday Feb 05, 2025
Wednesday Feb 05, 2025
In this episode, Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost, celebrate almost two years of their podcast with infectious energy and a focus on raising personal and professional frequencies. They discuss the importance of self-awareness and resilience in leadership. The episode features an inspiring conversation with Adam Mokelke, founding principal of Anchorage STREAM Academy Middle School. Adam shares his extensive experience in education, emphasizing servant leadership, the importance of relationships, and personal accountability. He talks about his commitment to physical fitness, particularly running, as a way to maintain mental health and overall well-being. Adam also discusses the challenge of balancing professional responsibilities and personal life, offering insights on humility, authenticity, and the power of giving oneself grace. Tune in to hear Adam's journey, his philosophy on leadership, and practical advice for educators and leaders aiming to improve their effectiveness and well-being.
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Tone
01:09 Reflecting on Two Years of Podcasting
02:05 Engaging with the Audience
08:26 Introducing the Guest: Adam Mokelke
10:49 Defining Leadership and Servant Leadership
16:40 The Importance of Humility in Leadership
24:19 Fitness and Leadership: A Personal Journey
28:54 The Importance of Self-Care
29:37 Outdoor Education and Recess
31:15 Running in Alaska
32:51 Choosing Your Word for the Year
37:04 Supporting Former Students
39:02 Advice for New Leaders
41:25 Mental Health and Leadership
51:41 Balancing Professional and Personal Life
57:04 Future Trends in Educational Leadership
01:01:32 Final Thoughts and Gratitude
Find Adam on X

Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
In this episode of the 2Principals Podcast, hosts Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost discuss the essential principles of educator professionalism with guest Nason Lollar, principal at Madison Career Technical Center in Madison, Mississippi. Amidst personal anecdotes and insightful discussions, they explore topics such as maintaining personal balance, building trust through effective communication, and the importance of vigilance in school safety. The conversation delves into how educators can utilize professional development, reflection, and collaboration to foster a positive school culture. Lawler also shares inspiring stories about the impact of trust and communication on student and staff morale, highlighting the importance of personal wellness and maintaining a healthy work-life balance. This episode is a heartfelt reminder of the profound trust and responsibility educators hold in shaping young lives.
00:00 Introduction and Casual Chat
00:26 Podcast Setup and Weekly Routine
01:07 Episode Milestones and Listener Engagement
02:13 Introducing the Hosts and Podcast Purpose
03:54 Website Updates and Merchandise
07:30 Special Guest Introduction
10:02 Random Question Segment
14:54 Guest's Background and Career Journey
19:14 Teaching and Learning Principles
27:14 Safety in Schools
36:54 Effective Communication in Education
42:17 An Impactful Lesson
42:51 Empathy and Personal Growth
43:32 Capitalizing on Opportunities
44:17 The Role of School Leaders
46:15 Maintaining Personal Balance
50:26 The Importance of Self-Care
54:54 Building Trust and Managing Change
01:00:03 Taking Ownership of Morale
01:11:58 Collaboration and Professional Development
01:14:10 Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts
Find Nason on X
Nason's Book - The Five Principles of Educator Professionalism: Rebuilding Trust in Schools

Wednesday Jan 22, 2025
Wednesday Jan 22, 2025
In this episode of the 2P Pod, Jason and Kevin, both school principals, discuss the importance of advocacy at various levels with guest Bob Driver, Director of MASSP. They explore effective strategies for principals to advocate for their schools locally, at the state level, and nationally. Key topics include the role of school principals as advocates, the significance of building relationships, and successful advocacy practices. The episode also emphasizes the importance of self-care for school principals, highlights the upcoming Winter Conference by MASSP, and celebrates National School Counselor Week. Bob provides practical advice on how principals can engage legislators and prepare for impactful advocacy efforts, shedding light on the direct benefits such engagements can bring to schools and communities.
00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter
00:42 Raising Your Frequency
01:32 Welcome to the 2P Pod
02:26 Meet the Hosts
02:42 Podcast Goals and Gratitude
03:15 About the Two Principals
05:35 Introducing Bobby D.
07:53 Random Question of the Day
10:51 Advocacy in Education
14:51 Local Level Advocacy
19:19 State Level Advocacy
29:17 National Level Advocacy
32:34 Concerns About Rural Internet Access
33:03 Day at the Hill: Educators and Legislators
33:53 Mental Health Support for Educators
40:45 National School Counselor Week
43:49 Winter Conference and Professional Growth
49:00 Managing Stress and Self-Care for Principals
56:49 Advocacy and Celebrating Successes
01:03:04 Closing Remarks and Future Plans

Wednesday Jan 15, 2025
Wednesday Jan 15, 2025
In this episode, hosts Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost, welcome Kathryn Schuster, a licensed independent clinical social worker (LICSW) from, to explore the intricacies of mental health and therapy. Kathryn discusses her practice's focus on empowerment, resiliency, and various therapeutic interventions, including Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). The conversation delves into common mental health issues like anxiety, depression, and PTSD, and provides valuable insights into the healing process. Kathryn also shares practical advice on managing stress, maintaining work-life balance, and the importance of having a strong support system. Additionally, the episode touches on the significance of laughter, the benefits of therapy, and the need to reduce the stigma surrounding mental health. Kathryn's dedication to creating a safe, supportive, and non-judgmental environment for her clients shines through as she offers strategies to enhance well-being and become the best version of oneself.
00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter
01:00 The Benefits of Laughter
03:15 Podcast Introduction and Gratitude
03:48 Meet the 2Principals
08:05 Introducing Kathryn Schuster
12:55 Empowerment in Therapy
15:45 Understanding Resilience
19:21 Common Issues in Therapy
21:12 Exploring EMDR Therapy
29:29 Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT)
33:18 Navigating Life Transitions
35:47 Misconceptions About Trauma and Healing
37:23 Addressing Secondary Trauma
38:55 Advice for First-Time Therapy Seekers
42:10 Understanding Mental Health
44:58 Balancing Work and Personal Life
46:21 The Importance of Support Systems
48:58 Practical Tips for Managing Stress
52:02 Recognizing Burnout and Seeking Help
56:36 Catherine's Personal Wellness Journey
56:52 Favorite Health and Wellness Resources
59:36 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Learn more about Kathryn by visiting HERE.

Wednesday Jan 08, 2025
Wednesday Jan 08, 2025
In this episode, Bobby Pollicino, an experienced educator and author, joins the hosts of the 2Principals podcast to discuss a rich tapestry of topics ranging from leadership and personal wellness to digital wellness and maintaining work-life harmony. Pollicino shares his unique journey from coaching lacrosse by to becoming a principal, highlighting how his diverse experiences have shaped his leadership philosophy. The episode delves into effective leadership practices, the importance of relationships, and maintaining mental and physical wellness through structured routines. Pollicino emphasizes the relevance of active listening, spiritual health, and the ongoing practice of self-improvement. He also addresses current educational challenges such as technology balance and the impact of AI, providing valuable insights for educators and leaders striving for continuous growth.
00:00 Introduction and Icebreaker
03:15 Discussing Leadership Journey
04:05 Philosophy on Leadership
06:48 Active Listening and Engagement
12:37 Balancing Meetings and Mindfulness
14:01 Writing the Book: Principled Leader
20:40 Fitness and Personal Well-being
27:34 Gratitude and Perspective
30:01 Balancing Professional and Personal Life
33:26 Work-Life Harmony: A New Perspective
36:10 Digital Wellness in Education
40:54 Future Challenges and Opportunities for Leaders
45:14 Understanding and Practicing Mental Health
52:51 Integrating Mental, Physical, and Spiritual Health
55:49 Final Thoughts and Advice for Leaders
Learn more about bobby by visiting the following resources:
Website
X
LinkedIn

Wednesday Jan 01, 2025
Wednesday Jan 01, 2025
In this special New Year's episode of the 2P Pod, hosts Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost discuss the importance of prioritizing mental and physical health in the educational leadership world. As they welcome listeners to 2025, they emphasize self-care strategies and share personal experiences to help principals and educators navigate the challenges of their profession. This episode is a motivational call to action, encouraging leaders to set boundaries, incorporate wellness routines, and seek community support to foster a healthier school environment. Tune in for inspiring insights and practical tips to make 2025 the year of wellbeing.
00:00 Introduction and New Year Greetings
00:23 Upcoming Interviews and Schedule
01:36 New Year Jokes and Reflections
03:51 Raising Your Frequency in 2025
05:19 The 2P Pod and Our Mission
08:32 Random Question of the Day
11:06 Prioritizing Well-being in the New Year
11:44 The Importance of Self-Care for Leaders
12:46 Personal Stories of Neglecting Wellbeing
14:51 Strategies for Prioritizing Wellbeing
19:12 Challenges and Barriers to Self-Care
22:48 Practical Tips for Daily Wellbeing
31:53 Final Thoughts and Encouragement